Timeline for What is the normal course of action with older questions that may no longer be on topic according to the Parenting guidelines
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| May 1, 2017 at 21:06 | comment | added | user420 | Again, yes, you are empowered to make that decision, particularly if you're confident in it. But again, confidence is not the same as being right. Regarding my "angle", my point is that long-term user retention and participation has been the area this site has always struggled most with. And now another top rep user is leaving. | |
| May 1, 2017 at 20:24 | comment | added | Rory Alsop Mod | No, I have not forgotten. And I think your moderation example was one of the best, to be honest. But I'm afraid I disagree with you on this. The CMs have also stated that if mods are confident with a decision to just take it. And beta is absolutely not a sign of failure in any sense so I'm not really sure what your angle is. Happy to chat in chat if you really want to. | |
| May 1, 2017 at 20:03 | comment | added | user420 | @RoryAlsop Why do you think this site has been in beta longer than every other site in the history of SE (I don't think that's actually hyperbole)? You're missing one key element, which is a sufficient body of high-reputation users so the community can be self-policing. You cannot possibly argue that that is something that parenting.se has ever demonstrated. | |
| May 1, 2017 at 20:01 | comment | added | user420 | @RoryAlsop Actually, I happen to be quite familiar with what mods are empowered with. The intent was to be human exception handlers, and I've always advocated for community consensus on every SE I've been a participant on (perhaps you're forgetting I was mod here for years?). Yes, you are empowered to make this call. But being empowered to do so does not make it automatically the correct choice to make. That is also a "no-brainer". | |
| May 1, 2017 at 20:00 | comment | added | Rory Alsop Mod | Also, while this site is more of a challenge than sites with stricter topics, this is definitely not countable as a failure. Probably the opposite - the beta duration is almost irrelevant on this. What is relevant is the number of visits, members, and the value given to those who need answers | |
| May 1, 2017 at 19:59 | comment | added | user420 | @Bugs I think Rory just made clear that he feels no discussion is necessary. Unless I'm misreading his comment (and his actions), it seems quite clear that he has a different opinion of on-topic than what had been the norm here for literally years, and is absolutely unapologetic about unilaterally enforcing that opinion without meta discussion. As such, I feel no need to attempt such a discussion | |
| May 1, 2017 at 19:59 | comment | added | Rory Alsop Mod | Actually, @Beofett - mods are specifically empowered with decisions. In general, as you will see from the number of times I query the user population, I await a majority decision in meta (eg when updating scope etc) but this one is a no-brainer. | |
| May 1, 2017 at 19:56 | comment | added | user420 | @Bugs Asking for clarification was entirely appropriate. I'd deleted my first comment because criticizing you for asking was inappropriate. However, it is worth noting that from this site's very beginning, it was declared "experimental", as much more subjective questions were allowed. It's fine if that experiment is deemed a failure (and the duration of this site's beta is good support for that). But such a decision shouldn't be at the hands of a single moderator, without normal discussion. | |
| May 1, 2017 at 19:56 | comment | added | Bugs | @Beofett start a discussion on meta if you wish. Getting community feedback would be very useful and I'm happy for that. | |
| May 1, 2017 at 19:53 | comment | added | user420 | @Bugs Then the usual course of action would be to attempt to fix the question, possibly by putting it on hold, soliciting feedback from the author, and editing. Despite the fact that it is old, and the chances of the author responding are somewhat remote, bypassing every part of the process and locking it was completely inappropriate. | |
| May 1, 2017 at 19:52 | comment | added | user420 | @Rory The question at heart is "what is a normal 'curriculum' for a 2 year old". I didn't feel it was too broad or opinion based back then, and disagree now. However, it now seems that my opinion is completely irrelevant, so long as one user and one moderator disagrees with me, with no meta discussion? | |
| May 1, 2017 at 19:51 | comment | added | Bugs | @Beofett I would be one to VTC. It's too broad since the question asks three questions. It's POB because what you think you should teach a child may differ to what I would teach them. It's my opinion verses your opinion. I asked the question since parenting is in BETA and a little "softer" if you will on questions compared to Stack Overflow and I wanted clarification on how to handle such questions. | |
| May 1, 2017 at 19:50 | comment | added | Rory Alsop Mod | This one appears to be by all normal SE rules entirely opinion based / too broad. It probably was okay back then, but if it was asked now it would be closed instantly. I have no problems with locking it now so no new answers are posted on it. | |
| May 1, 2017 at 19:30 | answer | added | user420 | timeline score: 1 | |
| Apr 19, 2017 at 16:12 | vote | accept | Bugs | ||
| Apr 19, 2017 at 16:11 | answer | added | Rory AlsopMod | timeline score: 4 | |
| Apr 19, 2017 at 14:20 | history | asked | Bugs | CC BY-SA 3.0 |