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Yes, I had a little fun with the title.

@Doorknob冰 brought up a conflict in the overlap of and in chat. The descriptions claim a fuzzy factor, but their definitions disallow it IMO.

says:

but before they turn into teens, so say from about 11 years of age to about 14 years

You can't be before teen and after it at the same time. (And the use of "so say" weakens the description.)

The description for is a bit better, though I still prefer nixing the "so say".

Was there previous discussion on this or ought the descriptions be modified to be clearer?

Edit: I do see this previous discussion. Is it time for reconsideration of some points?

Edit #2: Per the albeit limited dialog here, I have made changes. Most notably, I have removed the paragraphs about romantic/sexual "interest" in the other gender. If these are "age-specific" then that, as we have all seen by watching the news, has not as much to do with romantic/sexual desires and their expression than many would hope!

The tags are much more generally defined now than before.

I'm not the end-all-be-all of course, so if I have erred, please don't hesitate to correct my fallacy(ies)!

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    I'd actually estimate pre-teen as more like 9 to 12 than 11 to 14, so it's clearly subjective -- an argument in favor of removing quantitative boundaries from the tag definition.
    – Acire
    Jan 2 '15 at 17:40
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Those age ranges are definitely silly. By the very definition of the word, "pre-teen" cannot be 13 or older.

I haven't reviewed the tag descriptions for ages so I have no idea how long the current wording has been in place. I seem to recall from back when we defined these tags in the first place that we discussed how it would be useful to not state numeric ages but rather development/education milestones.

In any case, I vote for the removal of numeric ages, at the very least in the "pre-teen" tag.

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  • Based on the feedback here, I will make an edit to the tags. Jan 3 '15 at 6:06

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